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Winchester on the 21st

Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 8:28 am
by The_Bishop
Ed/Organizers:

I suggest we go to a 3 heat format. The doubling of heats can make the waiting between runs a little too long, not to mention those enduring the length of the work sessions. This is also compounded by the imbalance seen this past weekend between A and B run groups.

I realize that the roster is already in full swing, but just a suggestion for consideration...

Thanks,

- Allen.

Re: Winchester on the 21st

Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 10:38 am
by xph34rt3hr34p3r
3 heats might be beneficial. If we assume another 50 car lineup that's approximately 16 cars per heat, 8 cars per group. It'd make for quick runs and you wouldn't feel like you were burning to a crisp while working the course. The only downside is making sure we have enough people working the course. Last week it seemed like we had too many people. Some stations had 3 guys and I believe I saw a few groups of people where there wasn't even a station.

That's something that would need to be organized before the event though to make things easier on the organizers that day.

All in all not a terrible idea though.

Re: Winchester on the 21st

Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 11:40 am
by echan
OK. I'll put people in one of 3 heats as the sign up and will re-distribute those currently in heat 4.

Ed

Re: Winchester on the 21st

Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 12:04 pm
by BugBomb
The long heats were more a result of the course design than the number of cars per heat. This is a big lot and we are stretched fairly thin with just 5 work stations. That means we need at least 10 people (not including organizers) working those stations. That's 20 cars per heat (or 24 including organizers) to have enough people working the course. If we end up with only 50 people total (like the last event) and run 3 heats, we get around 7 workers per half, spread out to 5 stations. It's just not enough.

Hopefully we will get more participation at the next event. Regardless, I will try to design the course so that we have more overlap and spend less time out working the course.

Re: Winchester on the 21st

Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 12:12 pm
by Ben L
Gawd no. Not even shorter!

Re: Winchester on the 21st

Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 12:48 pm
by bugman1964
Sorry Ben we have to have more than some drag strips connected by turnarounds.

Re: Winchester on the 21st

Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 2:49 pm
by The_Bishop
BugBomb wrote:The long heats were more a result of the course design than the number of cars per heat. This is a big lot and we are stretched fairly thin with just 5 work stations. That means we need at least 10 people (not including organizers) working those stations. That's 20 cars per heat (or 24 including organizers) to have enough people working the course. If we end up with only 50 people total (like the last event) and run 3 heats, we get around 7 workers per half, spread out to 5 stations. It's just not enough.

Hopefully we will get more participation at the next event. Regardless, I will try to design the course so that we have more overlap and spend less time out working the course.

Totally understand the points regarding covering course work stations... Your consideration of the suggestion is much appreciated. I know you'll come up with a fun course!

- Allen.

Re: Winchester on the 21st

Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 2:53 pm
by Ben L
bugman1964 wrote:Sorry Ben we have to have more than some drag strips connected by turnarounds.
Ha ha. Not necessarily straighter, just not shorter. . . . Baby's got to stretch her legs . . .

Re: Winchester on the 21st

Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 4:01 pm
by The_Bishop
Ben L wrote:
bugman1964 wrote:Sorry Ben we have to have more than some drag strips connected by turnarounds.
Ha ha. Not necessarily straighter, just not shorter. . . . Baby's got to stretch her legs . . .

Ben:

We gonna stir up the CACC guys again for this one? Seems quiet over there for the 21st date...

- Allen.

Re: Winchester on the 21st

Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2010 4:11 pm
by eage8
I have presents on the way which should be on the car by this event :D

you better watch your back Frank and Dave :twisted:

Re: Winchester on the 21st

Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2010 7:48 pm
by FredK
I'm driving my Miata too, with some new shoes.

Re: Winchester on the 21st

Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2010 8:35 pm
by eage8
FredK wrote:I'm driving my Miata too, with some new shoes.
haha, oh no...

Re: Winchester on the 21st

Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2010 10:32 am
by D_Eclipse9916
FredK wrote:I'm driving my Miata too, with some new shoes.
Okay wtf, everybodys got some new stuff on, im feeling left out ;)

I actually am "making" this event. I got someone to cover my pace car and announcer duties int he morning at Summit so I can do some morning runs as the rest of the CDC events look very skeptical to if I can make even one or two more.

Re: Winchester on the 21st

Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2010 11:53 am
by Wade Chamberlain
FredK wrote:I'm driving my Miata too, with some new shoes.
LOL...Simpson brand? :mrgreen:

Re: Winchester on the 21st

Posted: Sun Aug 15, 2010 11:12 pm
by hepcatz
So I decided not to go to the TSCC championship event at Virginia Beach this weekend and instead will be at Winchester both days between CDC & MBCA(my first event with this group). Tons of runs, economical, no hotel & I get my expertly grilled veg sausages by my favorite club! Besides, the salt air is bad for my hairdresser's car. :lol:

John

Re: Winchester on the 21st

Posted: Sun Aug 15, 2010 11:25 pm
by 03threefiftyz
How does one register for an MBCA event? I'd like to run that event.

Re: Winchester on the 21st

Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 6:39 am
by hepcatz
MBC of Greater Washington only offer onsite registration which starts at 8. CDC members get a discount. There's a link to the website if you want more info on my blog, lower right.

http://autocrossr.blogspot.com/

Re: Winchester on the 21st

Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 9:01 pm
by BugBomb
Its on now. A certain Stalker Lotus replica and a whistling Cobra have just joined the list of combatants for this weekend.

Re: Winchester on the 21st

Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 9:06 pm
by konkilr
Yeah something about some lame event cancelled.

jake

Re: Winchester on the 21st

Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 9:07 pm
by FredK
What! I just came in from putting my crappy old tires on, guess I'll head back to the barn.

Re: Winchester on the 21st

Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 9:16 pm
by hepcatz
Dang, if only 12/16ths of the usual folks would call out sick or go to another event, I just might have a chance for FTD. Specially if I start first :)

Re: Winchester on the 21st

Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 9:49 pm
by 03threefiftyz
BugBomb wrote:Its on now. A certain Stalker Lotus replica and a whistling Cobra have just joined the list of combatants for this weekend.
Wade opted not to go to RIR?

Re: Winchester on the 21st

Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 10:06 pm
by BugBomb
RIR has been postponed until next year.

Re: Winchester on the 21st

Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2010 8:51 am
by Wade Chamberlain
I think they only filled 20 of the 60 slots, so there's no way they could make it work.

No biggie...I love Winchester! :mrgreen:

Re: Winchester on the 21st

Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2010 9:27 am
by eage8
what is RIR?